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Re: [A/S] Where has the list gone?

 

On 4/30/2012 11:10 PM, jay2gene wrote:
> I have not been receiving any messages
>
>
Before you write the list, please go to the list homepage and see if
there have been any messages......

If there haven't been any that would explain why...

Hunter

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[A/S] Where has the list gone?

 

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Re: [A/S] Progress and a couple questions

 

Mitch, that is certainly a good observation and I could see me going in that
direction. It looks like the weight difference is maybe 200-300#, depending
on the year. A 28'-29' is a fair increment up from a 26'-27'. I zeroed in on the 
27' Overlander because it was a good bit bigger than the 25' Tradewind, which 
I had figured as being the minimum that would be viable, for me. It is definitely
something to think about.
Ray

From: Mitch Hill <fmhill@capcod.org>
To: AirstreamList@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: [A/S] Progress and a couple questions

 
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Its two feet longer for only a slight increase in weight and tows like a
dream with a half ton pickup and probably better with a suburban.

When I acquired my 1964 Ambassador International Twin, I was looking at
a 1965 Tradewind and several of the the Overlander trailers and found a
much better deal on this Ambassador... In hindsight after owning the
Ambassador for more than a decade, I would not give it up for a smaller
trailer. At the time I purchased it I was driving a 1986 Ford F150 4x4
with the 300ci cast iron straight 6 with a new process 4 speed
transmission and towed this Ambassador with that truck very comfortably
for more than 5 years. And then in 2007 I purchased a 12,000 GVW
enclosed cargo trailer for transporting a diesel tractor/loader and the
F150 had to be retired for a Ford F350 Turbo Diesel 4x4 out of necessity
for a combined GVW in the neighborhood of 20,000 lbs... And the F350
doesn't know the Airstream is behind it when towing the Airstream...

One big advantage to the Ambassador is plenty of roof space for 420
watts of SOLAR panels and room for more if I decided to increase the
capacity as I like boondocking, I'm not into RV resorts and I have
plenty of space for Satellite TV and two computers for my CAD and
digital photography image processing ...
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Re: [A/S] Progress and a couple questions

 

On 4/30/2012 6:09 PM, ray bee wrote:
> 1. After a good bit of analysis, I have concluded that the late 60's through 70's 27' Overlander
> Double really meets all the basic needs I have for a trailer. The 25' Tradewind Double is a
> close second. The weight on the Overlander is roughly 2/3 of the 6600LB rated capacity of the
> Suburban, which leaves a comfortable safety factor. Essentially I am working on the assumption
> that it is a lot better, to have a little extra space, than to not have quite enough.
>
> Depending on exactly how the trailer is equipped, I plan to install an apartment size refrigerator,
> maybe an apartment size gas range, and maybe replace most or all of the kitchen cabinets, depending
> on the age and condition, of what's there. I will likely redo the living room area to accommodate my
> ham radio, computer and a 'reasonable' tv/stereo set up. I probably will pull out what ever is there
> and start over from 'empty', in the LR.
>
> When all this is done, the goal is that I will have what I would call a 'mini-park model', rather than
> the traditional RV and retain the ability to move the thing myself. Basically I do not expect to be
> doing a lot of moving around, if any, other than to get out of the way of a hurricane, flood, fire, etc.
>

I would suggest you include the Ambassador Model in this first group.
Its two feet longer for only a slight increase in weight and tows like a
dream with a half ton pickup and probably better with a suburban.

When I acquired my 1964 Ambassador International Twin, I was looking at
a 1965 Tradewind and several of the the Overlander trailers and found a
much better deal on this Ambassador... In hindsight after owning the
Ambassador for more than a decade, I would not give it up for a smaller
trailer. At the time I purchased it I was driving a 1986 Ford F150 4x4
with the 300ci cast iron straight 6 with a new process 4 speed
transmission and towed this Ambassador with that truck very comfortably
for more than 5 years. And then in 2007 I purchased a 12,000 GVW
enclosed cargo trailer for transporting a diesel tractor/loader and the
F150 had to be retired for a Ford F350 Turbo Diesel 4x4 out of necessity
for a combined GVW in the neighborhood of 20,000 lbs... And the F350
doesn't know the Airstream is behind it when towing the Airstream...

One big advantage to the Ambassador is plenty of roof space for 420
watts of SOLAR panels and room for more if I decided to increase the
capacity as I like boondocking, I'm not into RV resorts and I have
plenty of space for Satellite TV and two computers for my CAD and
digital photography image processing ...
--
--

Mitch Hill

(Sent from HP DV6T)

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Re: [A/S] Progress and a couple questions

 

On 4/30/2012 5:09 PM, ray bee wrote:
> 1. After a good bit of analysis, I have concluded that the late 60's through 70's 27' Overlander
> Double really meets all the basic needs I have for a trailer. The 25' Tradewind Double is a
> close second. The weight on the Overlander is roughly 2/3 of the 6600LB rated capacity of the
> Suburban, which leaves a comfortable safety factor. Essentially I am working on the assumption
> that it is a lot better, to have a little extra space, than to not have quite enough.>

Yes, its good to stay under your Suburban's tow weight rating....

2. The competing idea, is to go 'whole hog' and get one of the 34' triple axle Airstreams, that is a
generation newer. (Mid 80's early 90's) I've often see these monsters priced surprisingly close to
the 25-27' units, while appearing to be in better condition and obviously having much newer decor.
That essentially cuts down on what I have to do to repair and refurbish a smaller, older trailer.
It also puts me in a position of having to pay a company, to move the thing. I am figuring that the
'hurricane risk' can be reduced by insurance, Of course, the major up-side is I have a lot more
room, while probably not spending all that much more money. Actually, I have seen some layouts,
on the 34's that would require near zero, in terms of modifications.

I'd appreciate comments on my ideas. I'd particularly like to know if there are any
'glitches' in the 34' units. I gather they have the redesigned frames that eliminated the
sag and separation problems. In any case, I am planning to take my little pop up, move,
pick a spot I like then buy the trailer locally, in the Tampa Bay area. I am not looking
for my first time out to be a cross country tow.

I can't imagine wanting a trailer that someone else has to pull for me... if you want a 34 get a bigger truck.....

Hunter

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Re: [A/S] Progress and a couple questions

 

'glitches' in the 34' units? SIX tires, six sets of lug
nuts, six sets of bearings, six sets of brakes! other
than that my 34 has been an airstream dream.

dave@dwmorrison.com
> The refurbishing, of my Suburban is nearing its end, so
>I am now looking towards actually
> purchasing a trailer. Toward that end, I have come up
>with two competing scenarios, on
> which I would like some advice.
>
> 1. After a good bit of analysis, I have concluded that
>the late 60's through 70's 27' Overlander
> Double really meets all the basic needs I have for a
>trailer. The 25' Tradewind Double is a
> close second. The weight on the Overlander is roughly
>2/3 of the 6600LB rated capacity of the
> Suburban, which leaves a comfortable safety
>factor. Essentially I am working on the assumption
> that it is a lot better, to have a little extra space,
>than to not have quite enough.
>
>     Depending on exactly how the trailer is equipped, I
>plan to install an apartment size refrigerator,
> maybe an apartment size gas range, and maybe replace
>most or all of the kitchen cabinets, depending
> on the age and condition, of what's there. I will likely
>redo the living room area to accommodate my
> ham radio, computer and a 'reasonable' tv/stereo set up.
>I probably will pull out what ever is there
> and start over from 'empty', in the LR.
>
> When all this is done, the goal is that I will have what
>I would call a 'mini-park model', rather than
> the traditional RV and retain the ability to move the
>thing myself. Basically I do not expect to be
> doing a lot of moving around, if any, other than to get
>out of the way of a hurricane, flood, fire, etc.
>
> 2. The competing idea, is to go 'whole hog' and get one
>of the 34' triple axle Airstreams, that is a
> generation newer. (Mid 80's early 90's) I've often see
>these monsters priced surprisingly close to
> the 25-27' units, while appearing to be in better
>condition and obviously having much newer decor.
> That essentially cuts down on what I have to do to
>repair and refurbish a smaller, older trailer.
> It also puts me in a position of having to pay a
>company, to move the thing. I am figuring that the
> 'hurricane risk' can be reduced by insurance,  Of
>course, the major up-side is I have a lot more
> room, while probably not spending all that much more
>money. Actually, I have seen some layouts,
> on the 34's that would require near zero, in terms of
>modifications.
>
> I'd appreciate comments on my ideas. I'd particularly
>like to know if there are any
> 'glitches' in the 34' units. I gather they have the
>redesigned frames that eliminated the
> sag and separation problems. In any case, I am planning
>to take my little pop up, move,
> pick a spot I like then buy the trailer locally, in the
>Tampa Bay area. I am not looking
> for my first time out to be a cross country tow.
> Ray
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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[A/S] Progress and a couple questions

 

The refurbishing, of my Suburban is nearing its end, so I am now looking towards actually
purchasing a trailer. Toward that end, I have come up with two competing scenarios, on
which I would like some advice.

1. After a good bit of analysis, I have concluded that the late 60's through 70's 27' Overlander
Double really meets all the basic needs I have for a trailer. The 25' Tradewind Double is a
close second. The weight on the Overlander is roughly 2/3 of the 6600LB rated capacity of the
Suburban, which leaves a comfortable safety factor. Essentially I am working on the assumption
that it is a lot better, to have a little extra space, than to not have quite enough.

    Depending on exactly how the trailer is equipped, I plan to install an apartment size refrigerator,
maybe an apartment size gas range, and maybe replace most or all of the kitchen cabinets, depending
on the age and condition, of what's there. I will likely redo the living room area to accommodate my
ham radio, computer and a 'reasonable' tv/stereo set up. I probably will pull out what ever is there
and start over from 'empty', in the LR.

When all this is done, the goal is that I will have what I would call a 'mini-park model', rather than
the traditional RV and retain the ability to move the thing myself. Basically I do not expect to be
doing a lot of moving around, if any, other than to get out of the way of a hurricane, flood, fire, etc.

2. The competing idea, is to go 'whole hog' and get one of the 34' triple axle Airstreams, that is a
generation newer. (Mid 80's early 90's) I've often see these monsters priced surprisingly close to
the 25-27' units, while appearing to be in better condition and obviously having much newer decor.
That essentially cuts down on what I have to do to repair and refurbish a smaller, older trailer.
It also puts me in a position of having to pay a company, to move the thing. I am figuring that the
'hurricane risk' can be reduced by insurance,  Of course, the major up-side is I have a lot more
room, while probably not spending all that much more money. Actually, I have seen some layouts,
on the 34's that would require near zero, in terms of modifications.

I'd appreciate comments on my ideas. I'd particularly like to know if there are any
'glitches' in the 34' units. I gather they have the redesigned frames that eliminated the
sag and separation problems. In any case, I am planning to take my little pop up, move,
pick a spot I like then buy the trailer locally, in the Tampa Bay area. I am not looking
for my first time out to be a cross country tow.
Ray

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Re: [A/S] Re: '98 Excella Rear Drawer Removal Help

Russell,
Checked on my 99 Limited and I concur with your observation as to the track looking like overhead door material. In all my encounters with Airstreams I had never had the need to remove the drawer and after trying and searching for a way, I am stumped. It clearly does not work to lift up against the stops. Maybe Dave S will chime in and give us all a lesson on how to do this, if it is possible.

David T
On Apr 30, 2012, at 11:57 AM, RussellD wrote:

>
> Thanks Tony, when I pull the drawer out, it hits a 'Stop" of some sort. I used my flashlight to peer in and see what was going on. The roller they use looks like the same type of roller they use for roll up garage doors, but I can't see any kind of release tab at all.
>
> Russell
>
> --- In AirstreamList@yahoogroups.com, Tony Turner <turners@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Apr 30, 2012, at 9:25 AM, RussellD wrote:
> >
> > Still looking for someone that knows how to remove the rear drawer assembly on my 1998 Excella. Thanks!!!!!
> >
> > >
> > > Russell
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ——————————————————
> > Hi Russell,
> >
> > I'm not absolutely sure, and I can't get to mine right now. but I think if you roll it all the way out (there maybe a couple of tabs on the sides of the slides that you have to push in) and lift up it should come out. This maybe a two person job.
> >
> > Tony
> > 2000 Airstream Classic 28'
> > 2009 Chevy Duramax / Allison
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>



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Re: [A/S] Tire pressures?

 

On 4/30/2012 12:14 PM, David Tidmore wrote:
> Personally, I run all my tires at max pressure as they run cooler due to less flexing and as a result they deliver longer treadlife, but this is my personal preference. I have found little if any difference in the ride itself due to running a max pressure (ie measured while tire is at ambient temperature)
My problem with max pressure was I felt like I was driving on ice... the
truck was all over the place. It improved the minute I put it to Ford's
pressure.

Tony, I don't know about that slippery stuff, I have new tires on this
truck and they never drifted around....

The problem was over inflation.

hunter

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Re: [A/S] Photo - Arlington, WA Fly In

 

I do! And I'm jealous! Someday I'll be retired too...=)

Looking forward to the insanity of AFI...And some summery weather!

Judy

----- Original Message -----
From: RussellD
To: AirstreamList@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 7:27 AM
Subject: Re: [A/S] Photo - Arlington, WA Fly In

Judy,

Do you recognize the photo on the opening front page of this site?? Hmmmm?

Russell...

--- In AirstreamList@yahoogroups.com, "72-27" <72-27intlambassador@...> wrote:
>
> July 11-15, 2012
> Go to www.arlingtonflyin.org for information about the Fly In, activities, forums, vendors, daily airshow and dry-camping on site. It's our "Country Fair with Airplanes!"
>
> Judy White
> AFI volunteer with the 1972 Airstream 27' camping on the flight line... =)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Hunter Hampton
> To: AirstreamList@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 5:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [A/S] Photo
>
>
>
> On 4/24/2012 7:32 PM, RussellD wrote:
> > Oh yeah, that is Arlington, Washington, north of Seattle. It's absolutely gorgeous there in July. I would recommend everyone coming and enjoying not only one of the west coast's finest Fly-In and Airshows, but they also have one of the largest RV parking at an airport. They are VERY RV friendly there!!
> >
> > You can google the fly-in and check it out. several Airstreams too!
> >
> >
> > Russell
> >
> >
> Good to know, I just wrote you and asked if it was Arlington Texas. I'm
> going to Washington after the International....... maybe I'll get there
> in time...
>
> Hunter
>
>
>
>
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Re: [A/S] Tire pressures?

Daisy,
Here is what Goodyear stated on the matter. It is less stressful on a tire to be OVER inflated by 10psi than to be UNDER inflated by 10% (ie necessary pressure to carry actual load which may be less than max pressure of tire). Under inflation, you might remember, was the major cause of the all the Firestone Wrangler tires on Ford Explorers a number of years ago. Ford was the guilty party as they had recommended a lower inflation pressure to give a softer ride...until the tire blows and the ride is not so great. People were running the tires at the recommended empty load pressure recommendation, but carrying heavier loads without adjusting the tire pressures accordingly. Sidewall flex overheated the tires and they failed.

Personally, I run all my tires at max pressure as they run cooler due to less flexing and as a result they deliver longer treadlife, but this is my personal preference. I have found little if any difference in the ride itself due to running a max pressure (ie measured while tire is at ambient temperature)

David T
On Apr 30, 2012, at 8:56 AM, D Welch wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> This will probably cause some squabbles, but:
>
> What pressure do you put your truck and trailer tires at for traveling?
>
> On the Truck, the tires say 80 max, the label on the door post says 80
> rear, 65 front.
>
> Trailer tires, load range E say 80 max.
>
> What's the wisdom here? I don't want to harden the ride of either too
> much, but it's maybe better for the tires to flex less?
>
> Note that I'm heading out to drive in 90 plus temps.
>
> Daisy (getting ready to leave Big Bend before I melt)
>



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[A/S] Re: '98 Excella Rear Drawer Removal Help

 


Thanks Tony, when I pull the drawer out, it hits a 'Stop" of some sort. I used my flashlight to peer in and see what was going on. The roller they use looks like the same type of roller they use for roll up garage doors, but I can't see any kind of release tab at all.

Russell

--- In AirstreamList@yahoogroups.com, Tony Turner <turners@...> wrote:
>
>
> On Apr 30, 2012, at 9:25 AM, RussellD wrote:
>
> Still looking for someone that knows how to remove the rear drawer assembly on my 1998 Excella. Thanks!!!!!
>
> >
> > Russell
> >
>
>
>
>
> ——————————————————
> Hi Russell,
>
> I'm not absolutely sure, and I can't get to mine right now. but I think if you roll it all the way out (there maybe a couple of tabs on the sides of the slides that you have to push in) and lift up it should come out. This maybe a two person job.
>
> Tony
> 2000 Airstream Classic 28'
> 2009 Chevy Duramax / Allison
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Re: [A/S] Re: '98 Excella Rear Drawer Removal Help

On Apr 30, 2012, at 9:25 AM, RussellD wrote:

Still looking for someone that knows how to remove the rear drawer assembly on my 1998 Excella. Thanks!!!!!

>
> Russell
>




——————————————————
Hi Russell,

I'm not absolutely sure, and I can't get to mine right now. but I think if you roll it all the way out (there maybe a couple of tabs on the sides of the slides that you have to push in) and lift up it should come out. This maybe a two person job.

Tony
2000 Airstream Classic 28'
2009 Chevy Duramax / Allison







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Re: [A/S] Tire pressures?

On Apr 30, 2012, at 9:20 AM, Hunter Hampton wrote:
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I run my truck at the recommended pressure on the door...... NOT what it
says on the tires. Remember two years ago when I got new tires on
Bruiser and I had no control of the truck on the freeway until I figured
out what the problem was..... I let a bunch of air out and the truck
rode fine...... the guys who put on the tires put the air up to the max
on the tires.

Can't answer about the trailer tires, I'm still using D until I buy new
ones and will also be running Es....

Hunter


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Hi Hunter,

New tires have a waxy substance on them (mold release compound) that makes them feel slippery for about the first hundred miles. You can't wash it off it just has to ware off so it's best not to tow for that first few miles. Ford seems to have a habit of recommending low pressures for a softer ride… that's okay for most folks who drive around with there trucks empty.

Tony
2000 Airstream Classic 28'
2009 Chevy Duramax / Allison







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Re: [A/S] Tire pressures?

On Apr 30, 2012, at 8:56 AM, D Welch wrote:

What pressure do you put your truck and trailer tires at for traveling?

On the Truck, the tires say 80 max, the label on the door post says 80
rear, 65 front.

Trailer tires, load range E say 80 max.

What's the wisdom here? I don't want to harden the ride of either too
much, but it's maybe better for the tires to flex less?

Note that I'm heading out to drive in 90 plus temps.

Daisy (getting ready to leave Big Bend before I melt)


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Hi Daisy,

The truck numbers are (all most) always right… unless it's a Ford which seems to recommend dangerously low numbers. The trailer is another mater as it was (most likely) delivered with load range C tires. The E's are way over kill for your trailer so 65 should be fine. And remember these are cold presssures… they will go up as the tires warm up, so if you were to check them after towing they would read about 10 PSI higher, that's normal.

When in dough higher is safer then lower up to what it says on the tire side wall.

Tony
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2009 Chevy Duramax / Allison








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